Lucid dreaming
The philosophy of dreams
Whether you can know you are awake, whether dreams are experiences at all, and why these old arguments matter to anyone doing reality checks.
7 min readintermediate
Reality checking has a philosophical premise buried in it: that there is something you can do, right now, to establish that you are awake. That premise has been argued about for a very long time.
The dream argument
Descartes put it most famously in 1641. He notices that his dreams have contained experiences as convincing as the one he is having, and asks what mark distinguishes this from those. He cannot find one that could not itself be dreamed.
The argument is not that you are dreaming. It is that no internal test settles it, because any test you devise, you could dream performing successfully.
Which is exactly the problem lucid practitioners run into. People dream doing reality checks and getting the wrong answer: the nose pinch that seems to fail, the text that seems to hold still. The check works often enough to be worth doing. It is not a proof.
Are dreams experiences?
Less intuitive, and more interesting. Norman Malcolm argued in the mid-twentieth century that dream reports are not reports of experiences at all. That the concept of dreaming is tied to the telling on waking, and that talk of having conscious experience while asleep is confused.
Almost nobody holds the strong version now, partly because of the eye-signal work: a dreamer who signals out on becoming lucid, in real time, is doing something hard to describe without granting them experience while asleep.
But a weaker worry survives, and it matters for this whole site: a dream report is a memory of a dream, produced by a brain in a poor state for forming memories. How much the report resembles what happened is genuinely unclear.
What dreams might be
Modern philosophy of mind treats dreams as immersive hallucinatory experiences: the dreamer situated in a world, at a place and time, rather than merely picturing one. That framing does useful work: it explains why the self persists in dreams, why space is coherent enough to move through, and why lucidity is a change in belief rather than in perception.
Why this is in the lucid section
Because it changes the practice.
- The check is evidence, not proof. Do two.
- Do it when you genuinely doubt, because the doubt is what carries over, not the gesture.
- And treat your dream journal as a record of reports, which is what makes counting them across months more informative than reading any one closely.
Sources and reviewed references
3 references. What these labels mean
- 1.Meditations on First PhilosophyHistorical dream record
René Descartes (1641) · Michel Soly, Paris
Cited for: The dream argument, that no internal mark reliably distinguishes dreaming from waking, as originally posed.
- 2.Dreaming: A Conceptual Framework for Philosophy of Mind and Empirical ResearchAcademic book
Jennifer M. Windt (2015) · MIT Press
Cited for: A modern philosophical treatment of what dreams are, including the immersive-spatiotemporal-hallucination account and the status of dream reports as evidence.
- 3.The Reinterpretation of Dreams: An Evolutionary Hypothesis of the Function of DreamingPeer-reviewed research
Antti Revonsuo (2000) · Behavioral and Brain Sciences
Cited for: The threat-simulation hypothesis. That the over-representation of threatening content in dreams may be functional rather than incidental.